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Poster: xtifr Date: Feb 2, 2005 11:32am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FLAC and SHN

I seriously, seriously doubt that shorten is supported on more platforms than FLAC. The Debian project, an all-volunteer, 501(c)3 non-profit group of which I happen to be a member supports FLAC on eleven platforms. And that's counting old Macs and old Amigas as one platform (m68k). (Admittedly, we require you to replace the default OS with one of our free ones before we'll support it, but still....) We also support FLAC on everything from a PDA (the Zaurus) to IBM mainframes. The FLAC website claims over forty platforms, and I suspect that's an underestimate.

Of course, some of these platforms are not exactly mainstream, but then, you're the one that brought up that 20-year-old antique, the Amiga. :p ;)

A big advantage of FLAC is that it allows commercial as well as non-commercial use. It's an all-in-one solution. A rapidly growing number of vendors are providing FLAC support out-of-the-box, including, I believe, Rio, HP, Novell and Red Hat. Plus, bands can use FLAC for the music they sell as well as for the music they give away. A few bands are already taking advantage of this, and I expect this number to skyrocket in the next few years.

Ok, maybe my suggestion to provide beatings for those who continue to use SHN was a little over the top. But FLAC really seems to be taking off in a big way, and I think in a few short years, it's only going to be a few of us old hippies who even remember shorten. And I, for one, am not going to miss it.

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Poster: Matt Stevenson Date: Feb 2, 2005 3:17pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FLAC and SHN

has there been any progress in getting iTunes to play either .shn or .flac files directly without having to convert them? I've heard rumors, but have yet to see anything released. With all the new PAF shows in the Archive, I'd love to cut out a time consuming step.

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Poster: greenone Date: Feb 2, 2005 10:22pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FLAC and SHN

has there been any progress in getting iTunes to play either .shn or .flac files directly without having to convert them?

There's a QuickTime FLAC plugin that's in beta stages but supposedly works... http://damien.drix.free.fr/qtflac/

As for seeding in FLAC vs. SHN, I just started doing FLAC last month. I tried it last summer and had a BAD experience (I ended up corrupting some files that were virtually irreplaceable because my deck had eaten my master tape) but I'm over that now. :)

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Poster: silentmark Date: Feb 2, 2005 9:12pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FLAC and SHN

Is this what we have come to ? Which is better FLAC or SHN ?

I use both and will continue to do so, that is until the next compression scheme comes along and becomes the method of choice or the new 'hot' thing on the block ...

Beating people with cluebats for using shn ? While I know you were joking, this is just ridiculious ...

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Poster: dgrayshn Date: Feb 2, 2005 10:23pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FLAC and SHN

doesn't seem to be much point to this ... since if you use archive.. you will come across both formats... so you must be prepared to use both..

also I haden't seen it mentioned but people also prefer flac for a legit reason... it suports 24 bit files where as shn does not.

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Poster: suspect Date: Feb 3, 2005 3:20am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FLAC and SHN

Right...it only makes sense at this point to go FLAC if you are going to encode new shows. The less shn files that are on the archive = the less time 20 years from now the future admins bitch at us current admins for creating an assload of work for them :)

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Poster: Brad Leblanc Date: Feb 3, 2005 5:47am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FLAC and SHN

Hahaha!

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Poster: Diana Hamilton Date: Feb 3, 2005 12:08am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FLAC and SHN

The Debian project, an all-volunteer, 501(c)3 non-profit group of which I happen to be a member supports FLAC on eleven platforms. And that's counting old Macs and old Amigas as one platform (m68k). (Admittedly, we require you to replace the default OS with one of our free ones before we'll support it, but still....)

Wow, thanks for the excellent info, I stand corrected! I'm guessing the part about changing OS on the machine may be a bit of a sticking point, but still that's welcome news. :)